ext_35784 ([identity profile] clauderainsrm.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] therealljidol2016-05-13 08:19 am

Green Room - Week 22 - Day 4

Good morning Idolers!

I'm not sure if you saw this yesterday, but there is an anthology out there featuring several former contestants that is having an Indiegogo campaign! So check it out, and if you can help - do so! If you can't, then spread the word so that others can find out about it! https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/marked-by-scorn#/ (One of the levels is $4 and you get the e-book version! That's a really great deal! With the names that I know on that list, it's bound to be a good book.

Speaking of "good books", this is a good time to mention our Amazon store! http://astore.amazon.com/li0cd-20

There's a lot of great books there as well! (and of course, just by visiting it before doing the rest of your Amazon shopping helps!)

Which reminds me that I need to start coming up with the new incentives for our Patrons! https://www.patreon.com/user?ty=h&u=70027

What are some things I could offer that might tip you over into joining the team? ;)

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Happy Friday the 13th!

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http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/929542.html is the place where you go to link your entries! I hope to see a lot more action there, and soon! :)

[identity profile] xo-kizzy-xo.livejournal.com 2016-05-13 01:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I already gave my thoughts in yesterday's GR. I'm interested in this, though, because I think it bespeaks a lot more than people think it might.

[identity profile] kathrynrose.livejournal.com 2016-05-13 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I came in my first season on Spydie's special power. Some special powers are fine and good. That flopsy-mopsy upsidey-downey thing though- that shit is pure evil, and wrong wrong wrong.

Why am I in the GR when my entries are not done?

[identity profile] halfshellvenus.livejournal.com 2016-05-13 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Word on all of this. I think the Topsy-Turvy and other things just bring rage from all directions.

[identity profile] gratefuladdict.livejournal.com 2016-05-13 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I figured you showed up to validate me ALSO being in the GR when my entries aren't done.

*passes cookie*

[identity profile] kathrynrose.livejournal.com 2016-05-13 06:29 pm (UTC)(link)
mmm. Cookie.

[identity profile] bleodswean.livejournal.com 2016-05-13 02:29 pm (UTC)(link)
What an intriguing fact! (I'll have to check back in to yesterday's GR.)

I was a person who was given a gun in S9. I was simultaneously horrified and mystified by it. And it was a pretty serious potential twist. I didn't use it. I'm also a player who offered a bye to two folks who needed one. Nothing horrifying or mystifying in that gesture. So....I don't know! Both pulling the trigger and gifting a bye seem to be twisty. But the gun seemed...less fair of a twist? To an innocent player?

I guess it comes down to that. Fairness. Or unfairness.

[identity profile] murielle.livejournal.com 2016-05-13 04:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I totally agree! (You just said it before me, and much better.)

I'm for a clean competition, were folks win or lose on the merits of their writing, not wicked twists and turns. There is enough unpredictability in rl without having it in the things we do for fun...just saying. :-)

[identity profile] gratefuladdict.livejournal.com 2016-05-13 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I believe its use was at least ATTEMPTED one other time!

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[identity profile] xo-kizzy-xo.livejournal.com 2016-05-14 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
I think you're correct. I don't remember which season that was, though.

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[identity profile] murielle.livejournal.com 2016-05-13 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Gary I am still smarting from what I saw here earlier in the week. So, sadly, I can't help but see the things you're talking about filtered through that attack.

Also, apart from reading and voting last season, this mini-series is my only real Idol experience, and heretofore that experience has been wonderful, beyond wonderful, and that is what I am clinging to as hard as I can. (I suspect that my enthusiasm as a new player, and excitement at the wonderful things I read here had as much to do, if not more, for my much longer than expected stay in the competition.) So while I am so grateful for the wonderful experience until this week, in light of what occurred I am wary of anything that might encourage this behavior in the future.

I believe there is an honorable way to play an extremely competitive game, with all kinds of challenges, but Gary, I didn't play with bullies when I was a child, why would I want to play with them now? And why would I want to play in a situation that tolerates, even fosters that kind of behavior? We are all aghast when we see bullying in the schoolyard, and among kids online. And more than once I have heard people, adults ask how it can happen. Well this is how all atrocities occur. A bully attacks, and no one stands up to them, in fact people bend over backwards to "make peace" with them. This is how children learn how to bully, and that no one will stop them.

Obviously, I am still disgusted, but I have great faith in you personally, and in your Idol, and in the vast majority of Idol-ers. But right now I am trying really hard to cling to what's good here and excise (from my mind and heart) what is not good. The balance is so overwhelmingly good, and positive. The people are so abundantly good. Just give me a minute or two more to work it through. It's math, right? Math takes me awhile.

[identity profile] kickthehobbit.livejournal.com 2016-05-13 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the shade. I was feeling overheated.

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[identity profile] murielle.livejournal.com 2016-05-13 06:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I totally agree! (You just said it before me, and much better.)

I'm for a clean competition, were folks win or lose on the merits of their writing, not wicked twists and turns. There is enough unpredictability in rl without having it in the things we do for fun...just saying. :-)

[identity profile] apictureofaman (from livejournal.com) 2016-05-13 04:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Probably a combination. You figure we all started writing fiction, rather than getting quite so personal; and things are a bit tighter-knit1 with the usual suspects (vs. those groups that wanted to kill each other in Seasons past). So we're not out for blood the way we were.

Combine that with people habitually forgetting this is "event TV" rather than something that's based solely on writing merit.

I wonder how people would react if all the Twists came with an auto-destruct button, e.g., "Use in two weeks, else target will be selected at random ..."

 

1Generally speaking.

[identity profile] gratefuladdict.livejournal.com 2016-05-13 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm seconding all of this.

I would just add that there is some significant social pressure not to fire the gun, lest you become an Idol Villain. A villain may do well, but they'll never win. There's a reason so many of our past winners have also been Spirit of LJ Idol in our season.

Just like Gary has chosen to have us vote FOR entries and contestants to stay in, rather than AGAINST entries and contestants to send them home, I think most of us are more comfortable with powers that HELP people move forward, rather than hurt a fellow contestant. Of course, even the "positive" powers can be used strategically to put someone else at a disadvantage, but they are primarily used for good.

[identity profile] gratefuladdict.livejournal.com 2016-05-13 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Absolutely, but that collateral damage feels less personal or malevolent than pointing your finger at another contestant and saying, "I'm going to use my power against THAT person!"

Honestly, I think the occasional tension between contestants is part of why those powers don't get used more often. None of us are mortal enemies who would gladly set the other person's game on fire and then toast marshmallows over the flames. But we aren't congenial enough that firing a shot across the bow would be laughed off like we were little kids playing a game of Sorry.

On a bad day, it's more like the Cold War, and no one wants to fire the first nuke because it's not commensurate to how we feel - and it's not good for our own survival, either.

[identity profile] xo-kizzy-xo.livejournal.com 2016-05-14 09:34 am (UTC)(link)
Combine that with people habitually forgetting this is "event TV" rather than something that's based solely on writing merit.

THIS.