[identity profile] clauderainsrm.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] therealljidol
Here we are again. Elimination time.

After a week that seemed to go into overdrive at times, we end up at the point where we say goodbye to some more folks who have been with us on this journey.

Before we do that though I need to handle a little bit of housekeeping:

As previously noted, [livejournal.com profile] mandolinorange was given immunity by the jury. I repeat this because although all the contestants will no doubt remember that, I'm sure there is someone, somewhere who will look at the poll and go "She has less votes!" Keep in mind that once she received immunity she didn't receive that many votes as she might have from that point on.

I did see a couple other people notice that in some cases where someone either fell behind or got ahead that their vote totals seemed to "flatline". Which did seem to be true this week. It's a shame. Because there are quite a few people left in the competition who can tell you that anything can happen!

Also - I mentioned the "sock puppet" problem because (as I noted elsewhere) a contestant came to me to let me know that a couple of over-eager friends had created accounts to vote for her. It did appear to have an impact if the "un-voting" was any indication!*g*

For the record, I *always* check.

It didn't impact the results this time or any time during this season. But it's always good to make sure.

So we come to the part where we say goodbye to the five contestants with the fewest votes this week, and The Newest Members of the Jury who will be helping us as we close in on finding the next LJ IDOL!

Goodbye (and welcome to the jury) to:

Hideforshame aka [livejournal.com profile] winterberries For those reading this after the fact, I'm writing and posting this one last. I'm doing it for a reason, because although first alphabetically (although not anymore thanks to the name change) it was probably the roughest elimination for me to watch. I'm sure rougher ones are coming, but for this week this one was it.

Other people have said it before - but I am going to come out and say it: I really dislike the "and this week we were told to write about ____" entries. They get under my skin, especially at this stage of the game I don't think we should be seeing them. The best entries, IMO, are almost always the ones where if it wasn't for a mention in the header or as a tag line you would never know was anything but an exceptional entry you happened to read.

Her entry this week broke that rule and I think it suffered for it.

BUT not in the way people are going to think I was going with this.

I think it probably ended up being dismissed because of it. I know the sentiment against it and had the same reaction when I first started reading. "Oh no" were the very first words that formed in my head if memory serves.

I say that my personal theory is that it was dismissed not out of any conversation with anyone or anything beyond sheer gut feeling.

Because she went head on into one of my personal pet peeves and *made it work*. I could go back over the various exceptional entries from "hideforshame" over the course of Idol and there have been many. Many. But for my money, and I hope she understands this (even if no one else does*g*) that even in the entry she wrote the week she was eliminated made me stop and go "The RIGHT PERSON *can* pull that off". Thank you for a wonderful run and for teaching me that.


[livejournal.com profile] ka_crow: What happens when one of my personal favorites (and I can say that now! Granted, everyone left has a claim to it, but [livejournal.com profile] ka_crow was someone that I had an eye on fairly early on) combines poetry and a disclaimer to start off a post? Unfortunately more dice rolling than the poll could take apparently.

Which is an extremely frustrating thing to see. But I can't say that I was surprised to see it. Those moments when I thought she might just pull it out yet were both rewarding and frustrating. I love to see risks pay off, unfortunately it didn't quite work out this time.

Still, there is a lot to be said for playing with your gut and trusting your instincts. My personal opinion - without that disclaimer it might have stood a better chance because with it things were a little too choppy. Just my opinion of course. I had to read it a couple times though to make sure that I was actually seeing one of my favorite poems in five seasons of Idol.Sure enough though, it was.

So it really is a mixture here of "well, I saw it" and "damn, I wish I could have been wrong about this one!!!", because I don't even think that we've tapped into the wellspring of talent you possess.


[livejournal.com profile] lilmissmagic71: How do you do it? Seriously. You make it look so easy at times that I tend to just *assume* whatever you are going to be doing is going to be good. At some points being just a natural "well of course she made it through" after thought. That's especially funny because I think that overall you've managed to get better over the time that I have known you, but it's been in subtle moves forward instead of anything big and flashy, just a part of the natural process. I think a lot of people are going to be surprised to see your name on the list. But I think that they would have been surprised regardless of the week. "We lost [livejournal.com profile] lilmissmagic71, I can't believe she's gone already!" "Um - it's the finals." "Oh man, yeah. . ." *G*
You've done yourself proud though. I hope you know that.

[livejournal.com profile] mermaidkween:Of everyone at this point she is the one who has come the furthest. Not just (IMO) as far as developing skill wise but overcoming the disadvantage of falling through the cracks early on as far as readership goes. I've got to say I was shocked when that happened because I had been enjoying her entries quick a bit.

So when other people came on board and started enjoying her entries as well it wasn't so much of a surprise to me as it was a "What took you people so long!"*G*

I writing these as the first comments are coming in, and I saw her say "I'm not sure I'm the right kind of person to be doing this". I'd argue that she's *exactly* the type of person who should, and who I'm always glad to see do well. (and going now out of a crowd of 195, I think that qualifies as "doing well" by anyone's definition.)

[livejournal.com profile] supremegoddess1 Another one of those people who fall under the heading of "exactly the type of person that I like to see playing". Obviously quite talented from the onset, but it seemed to take longer than I had originally thought for her work to "catch on" with the voting public. Or maybe that's just in comparison to how long I thought it should take.

That said, as soon as I saw the poem this week something inside of me went "NOOOOOOO"! Not that it wasn't good. Because it was. But I just know the track record of poetry taking out good writers over the course of the last few seasons. It can make or break you - and once things start getting close, it's definitely a risk. That said though, it says a lot to go out on your own terms and saying something worth while, which that post definitely was. Another in a long line of powerful and engaging posts.


(I am going to come back in and add comments as soon as I write them.*g*)

It's a really sad day because once again we are losing a really talented group of people, including a couple of my personal favorites. Thank you so much for playing this season!!!
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Date: 2009-02-17 01:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mermaidkween.livejournal.com
So, um, bye, y'all.

Date: 2009-02-17 01:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alycewilson.livejournal.com
It's been fun reading your thoughts over the course of the contest.

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Date: 2009-02-17 01:37 am (UTC)
ahavah: (*Hugs*)
From: [personal profile] ahavah
I'm very surprised to see [livejournal.com profile] supremegoddess1 going out. I thought she'd make top ten.

Sorry about all of the losses! I was busy all weekend and forgot to vote, and I feel somewhat guilty.

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Date: 2009-02-17 01:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] supremegoddess1.livejournal.com
It's been a great run. Thanks everyone for your support, and I will definitely remain involved in the community. Maybe next season, eh? I'm proud to have made it this far, and the ranks I'm joining include some awesome writers. Good luck to everyone who remains!

Date: 2009-02-17 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abbismom.livejournal.com
I am particularly sorry to see you go!

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Date: 2009-02-17 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sushimustwrite.livejournal.com
I leave for a few hours, and all you leave me is a ton of threads to read about these numbers. You've been busy. ;)

Either way, this is a shock, to say the least. All of you will be missed, but welcome to the jury! Do they have cookies?

Date: 2009-02-17 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mermaidkween.livejournal.com
Now I'm out. We no longer have ASC representation. Boo. We've got to get someone to do this next season.

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Date: 2009-02-17 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alycewilson.livejournal.com
I am very saddened to see [livejournal.com profile] ka_crow go this week. Not only is she a college buddy, but she continually impresses and amazes me with her writing.

Date: 2009-02-17 01:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] supremegoddess1.livejournal.com
I didn't know you guys went to college together!

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Date: 2009-02-17 01:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnmill79.livejournal.com
I'm sad to see all who leave now, but Magic, yours in particular was very strong. Darn.

Date: 2009-02-17 01:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imafarmgirl.livejournal.com
Wow, this is very sad. Some fantastic writers in this bunch going out so much so that it's still surprising even after you have been watching the polls. Hugs to all. You'll be missed, but congrats on the jury spots.

Date: 2009-02-17 01:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mermaidkween.livejournal.com
Also, I think I'm number 24? Assuming I can count? (Which actually isn't most days.)

Date: 2009-02-17 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
Yeah you finished 24th this round. Which I believe means ini the competition altogether you came in 25th place.

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Date: 2009-02-17 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittenboo.livejournal.com
It's always so hard to watch talented people go.

:(

Date: 2009-02-17 01:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] just-the-ash.livejournal.com
Hey, everybody, it's been exceedingly cool, and I'm just pleased to have made the Top 30. I took a stylistic risk on this week's entry, and the thing about risks is... they're risky. Otherwise they'd be called "sure things."

I've made an arseload of new friends, and every week for five months I've answered a writing prompt. This is all very good.

Plus, now I'm on the jury and I can do unspecified secret jury things. I just hope that if we get sequestered, Gary orders pizza.

Best of luck to the Top 23, yo.

Date: 2009-02-17 01:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roina-arwen.livejournal.com
Mmmm... pizza! :)

*makes room in the jury box for da Crow*

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Date: 2009-02-17 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robertlyon.livejournal.com
NO NO NO, they are gone. :(

Date: 2009-02-17 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roina-arwen.livejournal.com
Sorry to see y'all go... *pouts*

*scootches over to make room in the jury box*
*offers cocoa and homemade cookies*

Grab a seat, watch the show!

Date: 2009-02-17 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boxsofrain.livejournal.com
Cocoa? Yum!

Date: 2009-02-17 01:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mermaidkween.livejournal.com
I just read the bit you added about me. I'm making a pout face, just so you know.

Date: 2009-02-17 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] edith-jones.livejournal.com
I can't believe I'm still in. I even wrote in my LJ that I was out this week. Wow. I'm sorry for all the people who are out. They will be missed.

Date: 2009-02-17 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boxsofrain.livejournal.com
It is really sad to see who is leaving us this week.

I agree about [livejournal.com profile] mermaidkween, I have watched her develop and am really proud of her,

Date: 2009-02-17 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mermaidkween.livejournal.com
thank you. :)

Date: 2009-02-17 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterberries.livejournal.com
I'm glad I had the opportunity to do this this season; it's meant a lot to me on more than one level. I posted a final Idol-related post on this journal (second entry down), for anyone who had been wondering where my other journal is or what I planned to do with this one when the competition ended.

Date: 2009-02-17 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alycewilson.livejournal.com
I truly have enjoyed reading your writing. I'm very sorry to see you go.

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Another Devilish Scheme

Date: 2009-02-17 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
But speaking of friends flocking to the polls, I just thought of another devilish trick Gary could throw in. Previous to the vote maybe warn everyone something crazy and substantially relevant will be happening during the vote so people aren't taken completely off guard. Then when polls are closed, discount every vote cast which only votes for one person. It is implausible that anyone actually reading a number of entries would still only have one they want to vote for, so these discarded votes will be predominantly people who were just recruited in to vote for one person and only did jsut that. I'm guessing it would substantially change the numbers and leave only votes from people who actually read entries. And it shouldn't be terrribly much work for Gary since it doesn't require scrutinizing the names, just scrolling down it with a ticker (or lacking that jotting down tally marks to subtract from the total).

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Date: 2009-02-17 03:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deza.livejournal.com
The "they're gone" post gets more upsetting every week.

Date: 2009-02-17 03:20 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-02-17 03:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterberries.livejournal.com
Thanks for them nice words there, Gary. :) I had struggled with the topic this week a lot, and I think I ended up doing that "and so this week we were told to write about..." thing in an almost ironic way -- like "man, this topic fought me every step of the way!" Heh. Anyway, I'm glad that you felt I pulled it out, and I had to go home one of these weeks -- so going home this far into the competition and with a note from you saying you liked this week's entry is feeling pretty good, I will say. :)

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Date: 2009-02-17 03:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] supremegoddess1.livejournal.com
Thank you for your kind words Gary. Quite honestly, I suspected the poem this week would be my undoing. I wasn't feeling the topic this week. But I like my poem, and if I have to go out, I'm glad I went out on an entry I liked (unlike my entry for last week, which I felt was awful).

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Date: 2009-02-17 04:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] creature-girl08.livejournal.com
Well damn, as usual.

Yo, LJ Idol World!

Date: 2009-02-17 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mermaidkween.livejournal.com
I've put up a bit of an exit poll here (http://mermaidkween.livejournal.com/818999.html)!

Fill it out, let me know whatever you want, et cetera!

EDIT: I've decided to allow anonymous commenting, since I realized that may be holding some people back!
Edited Date: 2009-02-17 08:10 am (UTC)

Re: Yo, LJ Idol World!

Date: 2009-02-17 08:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] supremegoddess1.livejournal.com
how do you do that for an individual post?

Re: Yo, LJ Idol World!

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Date: 2009-02-17 06:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenandbronze.livejournal.com
It seems to get harder and harder... and I have to echo other's sentiments of the writers that out now. I look forward to seeing what this jury thing is all about... my curiousity has risen.
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