[identity profile] clauderainsrm.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] therealljidol
Everyone on Livejournal is good. It’s doesn’t matter if you joined back when you had to get an invite from someone to sign up or signed up on a whim last week to post your stuff on that fandom community your friend was telling you about.

You are good people.

If you come over from Dreamwidth – well, chances are you used to be on Livejournal and are over there for legitimate personal reasons. So you are still pretty good.

A blogger using Open Access – you’re decent. But really, shouldn’t you have a Livejournal?

Are you coming in from Facebook or Twitter??? Why? You can’t be up to any good, why would someone from those sites actually come over to see anything on Livejournal, unless it was for nefarious purposes?

I’ll admit, I’ve had moments like that (above). Most people have. I think it comes from the inferiority complex LJ (as a culture and community) has developed toward other social media. Or perhaps the walls that people put up in their own life, keeping their LJ apart from all other social media. Walls that the rest of the world seems determined to eliminate regardless of what people think about it.

It’s been a blip in the past. But as time goes on, the presence is getting larger. Of the top 5, only ONE contestant didn’t end up benefiting from voters coming in from facebook. (and yes, they are still in the competition)

Other sites are still a blip. (There were 2 votes that came from Twitter and 1 Open Access vote as opposed to the 35 from facebook for our largest influx of any week in the history of Idol)

There are some ways to look at this – Oh, no, this is the end! Let’s hand the winner icon to the one person who didn’t use those/have people use them on their behalf! Or, these are people coming to Livejournal who might never have known about the site before, or who used to be here and are being seduced back! They are coming to support good writing – and isn’t that awesome! We should welcome these people with open arms.

If we are going to the latter though, there is a rule. It’s not a request. It’s a rule. It’s always been a rule, and it always will be a rule. Why? Because it makes sense. If you aren’t following this, you need to be…

Tell People to Read.

If you are just encouraging people to vote blindly, you aren’t doing anyone any favors. I’d like to assume that people know that they should be reading what they are actually voting for, and based on the names I’m seeing, I’m sure that they are. But there is always the chance of that not happening… after all, Idol has the prettiest clicky boxes on the Internet. Nowhere else really compares to how compelling they are, and how fun it is to watch them for hours on end. Let’s face it – isn’t “meta” just clicky box porn?

There is some great writing happening here in Idol – and being able to reach people out there in the Great Social Media Beyond and bringing them back to the fold, and exposing them to what our writers are offering, that’s amazing stuff! Thank you to anyone who is doing it. But make sure to include a line or three about checking out the entries. Not just the one, but all of them – especially since there are three people left, that’s really not going to be difficult! Lead them to the water, and we get our next generation of Idol writers for Season 9! People who experience what is going on here *want* to be a part of it. People who just see it as a clicky box… many of them don’t.

As I said, based on *who* is coming to vote, I don’t think the “not reading” is a real problem. But there is a perception problem involved and that has a habit of festering. So, let’s be proactive about that – OK?

We have three contestants, who are adding their entries as we speak: http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/696365.html Let’s make these last few moments together awesome!!!

Date: 2013-09-23 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anyonesghost.livejournal.com
Exhibit B doesn't count?
Well, dang; what have I been doing all this time? It sure felt real!

Oh, man: does this mean that, if I were to enter Season 9 (hypothetically speaking), I'd enter with 0 weeks to my name?

Date: 2013-09-23 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kathrynrose.livejournal.com
It does.

On the other hand, since it doesn't count, if you win Exhibit B you can still compete in Season 9.

(At least I think so, maybe Gary will come in and say otherwise.)

Date: 2013-09-23 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roina-arwen.livejournal.com
Since past Idol winners are allowed to participate in the mini-seasons, it would only be fair for the Exhibit B winner to be able to compete in season 9! :)

Date: 2013-09-23 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porn-this-way.livejournal.com
*blinks* If we weren't meant to play Idol in Idol, then what, pray tell, were we supposed to do?

I'm sorry if asking this makes me part of the problem or summat, but... bzuh?

Date: 2013-09-23 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porn-this-way.livejournal.com
Well, yes. *grabs spitwad launcher*

Date: 2013-09-23 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porn-this-way.livejournal.com
It's a competition, of course people are going to compete! It seems rather pointless otherwise.  Exhibit A was the first of its kind, so it made sense that people were sort of sitting back to test the waters. Exhibit B, though? Game the fuck on, this shit's Sparta! Unless you set up a situation where there's nothing to lose, and everyone can just get back in the game the next week, or there's a big fluffy group hug instead of eliminations each week, people are going to be fighting tooth and nail to hang on, and that increases exponentially the more time they invest in the game and, as you mentioned above, the stiffer the competition is. Weeks 1 and 2 - okay, people have only invested a week or so of their time so far, the quality of writing is all over the map, a bunch of people are bound to self-elim by missing a deadline anyway, so let's just chill. But toward the second half of the season, and then the final stretch of the game? People have invested months of their time and tons of themselves, plus a bunch of adrenaline from staring down the barrel of a deadline and frantically pounding F5, and the safety net of cannon fodder's mostly gone. (Sorry, I'm not going to insult anyone's intelligence and pretend everyone who walks into Idol is some literary genius who's a threat for the crown - sure, there are some dark horses and surprise contenders, but there's cannon fodder every round, regardless of whether it's nice to say so out loud.) So by a certain point in the game, the human shields are dead on the battlefield, you've poured your heart and soul into the competition for months on end (which you wouldn't have bothered to do if you weren't here to seriously compete!), everyone left is a legit threat, you know good and well that *you're* in *their* was as much as they're in yours, and resting comfortably on your laurels and sipping a cup of tea while chatting about the weather ain't exactly an option anymore! Exhibit B might have been a mini-season, but a half stick of dynamite is still dynamite!

Date: 2013-09-23 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porn-this-way.livejournal.com
Well I *do* try! :p

Srsly bro, you're all cryptic Yoda with the mysterious drama allusions as of late. Sense the Dark Side, do you?

Date: 2013-09-23 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kathrynrose.livejournal.com
There are days when the internet is a giant class of pre-teens and someone just handed them all something to throw.

It could be worse. They could be monkeys. And you know what monkeys throw.

Date: 2013-09-23 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porn-this-way.livejournal.com
Yes, but I also don't arm my kids with projectiles, tell them to fight to the death, and then wonder why they're throwing things! "There's only one passing grade available, and you all have to compete for it" wouldn't leave me much room to get mad at them for being too competitive, ya know? That was too harsh. I'm sorry. I also may have misinterpreted the statement - throwing things at each other (ie, competition) or at *you*? (different matter entirely.)

Sure, it's frustrating when I've got X planned for class and the kids are hellbent on derailing and doing Y instead, but I think I'm just confused here because I have no idea what the issue even is. Did you intend for Exhibit B to not be competitive and now it is? Are people wanking it up behind the scenes and *that's* the frustrating part? Some combo thereof? Something else entirely? I'm legit not trying to wise off or fuck with you here, but this is like trying to solve some strange riddle, and though I can make numerous educated guesses, they're just that - guesses.
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Date: 2013-09-23 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kathrynrose.livejournal.com
Wait.

We're NOT supposed to throw things at Gary?

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Date: 2013-09-24 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kathrynrose.livejournal.com
Project Runway didn't start with eighty people. The PR people didn't have to pair themselves up like 5th grade gym class. The PR people LIVED TOGETHER and worked together all day. We had people in different hemispheres, let alone time zones.

And you can't make people be friends. People become friends organically, and it happens a lot easier if they're not under crazy pressure. (and if they're not wondering if that person is really who they say they are)

And, FWIW, I think friend-making did happen. Certainly friendship-strengthening did. Maybe it wasn't the friendships you were looking for, or maybe it wasn't as obvious as you expected.


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Date: 2013-09-23 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xo-kizzy-xo.livejournal.com
I'm not saying it's right or wrong. Just not the droids I expected to be looking for when B started. *shrugs* It is what it is.

Now I'm genuinely curious -- what were you expecting?

Date: 2013-09-24 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xo-kizzy-xo.livejournal.com
Ah, the rest period I've been advocating, you mean?

:D

Time and perspective can do wondrous things. In all honesty, I think you need that more than any of us do, and I mean that as a friend.

Date: 2013-09-23 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kathrynrose.livejournal.com
To be fair, Exhibit A was twist-free. So one of the people who started "playing Idol" in Exhibit B was you.

Date: 2013-09-23 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roina-arwen.livejournal.com
Oh, it feels real enough, but according to [livejournal.com profile] clauderainsrm it doesn't count as "time served" as far as Weeks in LJ Idol.

So yeah, technically if you participate in Season 9 and this mini-season has been your only go-around, you will be at 0 weeks served as far as the "regular" LJ Idol is concerned. =P

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